Showing posts with label interfaith unity. Show all posts
Showing posts with label interfaith unity. Show all posts

Wednesday, December 12, 2007

The end of unity in the USA?


"It was the best of times It was the worst of times." Charles Dicken's description captures the rapidly shifting ground in the USA today regarding the "united" part of "United States". All biological species tend to fly apart, as do all flocks of birds or schools of fish. Species that survive need a strong force that continually pulls them back towards the center of mass of the group.

For humans, research has shown that you can generate a face that will be considered "beautiful" by finding the center of every feature across all races and combining them - giving a result like Catherine Zeta-Jones that seems familiar to everyone and yet a little exotic to all in a pleasant way.

Similarly, the behavior of a flying flock of birds can be generated in a computer with just a few simple rules, one of which is "Move towards the center of the flock", and another being "Don't run into the bird next to you." (If you have Java enabled, there is a cool animated interactive flock simulator that you can experiment with here.)

So it is startling to me to see a collapse of this principle in the central governing body of the US, the US Congress, or in the government of the states of Michigan and California. Congress is playing with fire and a current extension it granted itself on its homework until this Friday, Dec. 14th. (It was due October 1st, and I wrote earlier about the pending US Government shutdown here. )


The mood is described in a New York Times article today : Muscle Flexing in Senate: G.O.P. Defends Strategy, which I excerpt here:

WASHINGTON —...

[...it] was more than a little telling when Mr. McConnell laid down his mark in the current budget fight on Tuesday, informing the Capitol Hill press corps that he was ready to offer Democrats a deal ...the Republicans should get virtually everything they want.

Mr. McConnell and his fellow Republicans are playing such tight defense, blocking nearly every bill proposed by the slim Democratic majority that they are increasingly able to dictate what they want...

It also explains why so little is getting done in Congress right now.

But there are also risks. The latest New York Times/CBS News poll found that the stagnation in Congress has made an impression. Just 21 percent of Americans say they have a favorable view of Congress and 64 percent disapprove. And the two parties have been unyielding, calculating that voters will blame the other side.

I am not seeing much common ground, meeting in the center,” said Senator Gordon H. Smith of Oregon, a Republican who is seeking a third term. “And if we don’t find that, the Senate will fail in its governing responsibilities.

The thing that’s important to remember is that the Senate was structured to govern from the center, to find the common sense. There is little sense about this place right now.”

Democrats say the Republican stance, especially on spending, is reckless and aimed at shutting down the government.

By the calculation of Mr. McConnell and other Republicans, voters will reward them for stopping the Democrats from doing all sorts of things that the Republicans view as foolish.

Aides to the Republican leadership said they hoped to supplement that message with an agenda that they plan to lay out early next year and that they said would show clear differences with the Democrats.

In the meantime, Mr. McConnell and the Republicans, with Mr. Bush’s support, effectively have a stranglehold on the Senate. That has in turn created bitterness between Democrats in the Senate and House, where Democrats have a larger majority and more leverage.

Mr. Reid met Tuesday afternoon with Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California as the Democrats continued to struggle to formulate an “omnibus” spending package that would bundle 11 appropriations bills and avoid a shutdown of government agencies.

So, it seems clear that the strategy of focusing on differences and amplifying them instead of seeking common ground has managed to stop operation of the Congress almost entirely. And it seems clear that the Republicans don't deny that, and are delighted with that result, figuring voters, or maybe corporate supporters, will be thankful and reward them for preventing any motion in the direction the elected Democratic majority wants to go now.

This also seems to be an unprecedented focus on winning everything possible today, regardless of whatever hard feelings or long term damage to working relationships it may cause the future.

It also seems to be an embodiment of the assumption that the way to get maximum long-term benefits is to keep on fighting intense battles for maximum short-term benefits. The belief being apparently that winning every battle will surely win the war.

The fallacy in that logic was a subject here recently. Only certain kinds of things have the property that short-term and long-term values are the same. The Japanese seem to be at one end of the spectrum, focusing on long-term gain, and the US seems to be at the other end, focusing on short-term gain.

Why is that?

One obvious reason may be a simple lack of education in the country that short-term and long-term results may go in opposite directions. This doesn't seem to explain how the US at one point 200 years ago "knew" that, and has increasingly been "forgetting" it.

It is not just the Congress, of course, that shares this misconception. Most US businesses seem to be in the grip of the myth of "EVA" - Economic Value Added, trying desperately to maximize short-term profits, and not understanding why that strategy isn't helping long-term prosperity.

But the article a few days ago by Stanley Fish in the New York Times, advocating a Machiavellian government, ready to cheat and lie at any time to gain its way, seems part and parcel of this approach. Again, there is an obsession with "pragmatism" that seems to me just a code-word for short-term victory and a lack of contemplation of the long-term impact of everyone following such a strategy.

But it goes both ways, and has a feedback loop, and closes in on itself and latches. If, in fact, you assume that the other side in any disagreement is bargaining in bad faith and has no intention of living up to its word or keep its promises, then why should you accept any promise of future benefit at the cost of an immediate loss?

The whole concept of "horse-trading" as it was called assumes that a man's word is good for something. It assumes that people care about their social reputation for honesty, because that is the currency needed to keep the system running. No lawyer will be around to enforce the back-room verbal deals that have to be made, so they must rely on the core value of honor, even among thieves.

So it may be that abandoning all pretense of caring about honest-dealing, as Mr. Fish advocates, and as many other apparently go along with, has the result of destroying the entire basis on which compromises necessary to keep the country from fracturing are based.

Certainly, a flock of birds simulated in a computer, if the instructions are changed to fly away from instead of towards the center, will immediately break apart.

What I think the Republican strategists are missing is that it will not split into two flocks, because there is momentum and a long term impact to deal with. If every person on the Republican side has come around to believing in and advocating emphasis on divisiveness and differences, yes, the flock will split into two -- and then the Republican portion will explode into a million separate pieces.

Because, at that point, why should any Republican trust any other Republican to deliver on promises that are made? Even "loyalty" is based on the concept that present suffering will be rewarded later. If that promise is worthless, why should anyone be loyal?

It's like the old joke of a man who asks a Boy Scout if he would trip an old lady for a million dollars, and the Scout considers and says "Yes." Then the man asks him if he would do it for one dollar, and the Scout replies "What do you take me for?"

And the man answers: "I already know what you are. I'm just trying to find your price."

I'm not on a personal vendetta here against Republicans, and I'm trying to be neutral but scientific. I simply can't see how a strategy of developing strong muscles and momentum pushing us apart instead of pulling us together and overcoming differences can possibly work.

By my calculations and logic if the Republicans "win" that battle, they lose the war.

Maybe I missed something. The hot-lines are open, and anonymous comments are welcome and won't be removed unless they involve personal attacks, inappropriate language, or advertising. I really am curious what the thinking is here of how this is going to play out.

Maybe the thinking is that cooperation is not required, only obedience; and obedience can be obtained by the swift and merciless execution of raw power, punishing those who disobey and break ranks of loyalty. This is "theory X" of corporate power, writ large.

And, there are two things wrong with that strategy.

One is that life is too complex these days to be understood from any one point of view, regardless how strongly enforced. More precisely, the stronger the single view is enforced and dissent suppressed, the more blind that leadership becomes to anything outside their limited experience. People may be brought into line, but Life will not. Global warming cannot be bullied into compliance. Gravity will continue to work. New infectious viruses will not care what you think. Life goes on. Domination of the whole world is simply not possible.

Similarly, the efforts to achieve "control" by continually simplifying the world until it becomes manageable is the myth that has brought many large corporations down. It won't simplify just because you wish it would, and you only end up with a simple model that has no connection to reality, producing results that refuse to stay in line. As any biologist knows, simplification of an ecosystem is the pathway to death. Diversity is power, when it comes to survival. Well, diversity with a continual distributed, voluntary restoring force towards the middle.

The second thing wrong with that strategy is that the most serious risk to stable control is not external, but internal.

No person, or group of people, has some sort of absolute reference frame. As soon as you break off input from outside, the internal world is free to start rotating and twisting, which will be entirely invisible from inside. The rubber sheet of the world stretches and shrinks, and the people embedded in that world stretch and shrink with it, unaware of these changes because it still looks "right" to them. But "right" has become disconnected to the larger world, and starts drifting, both overall, and then breaking apart into separate pools of "right" that differ with each other.

This may be quite visible to those outside that world, but will be invisible and denied to those inside its clutches.

I am not sure, but from the examples I can see I think that pathway leads to a collapse of morale, motivation, and to complete fatigue and depression as well. Certainly this is true, overall, to people who become fragmented from society. Fragmentation is followed very quickly with increasing isolation, depression, deterioration of health on all fronts, and perhaps violence against the world, which seems to be going wrong, or against oneself, possibly suicide.

It's the larger scale version of what our cells do in our body if they are removed from the body -- a process called "apoptosis" kicks in, and the cells commit suicide.

We seem to rely on some connection and alignment with the outside world, through all sorts of invisible pathways that we can only dimly sense, indirectly.

It makes sense. Life on Earth has evolved for billions of years, developing immune systems and the ability to police itself and restore health. If some part breaks off and starts growing on its own, which we'd call cancer, generally the body moves in and destroys it or by cutting it off from nutrition, kills it off. Life is way bigger than any one person, or group of people, and if they go head-to-head with Life, I think Life generally wins. It has about a billion years more practice and experience at this sort of thing.

Our bodies aren't built with a single Rambo-cell using super-human powers to command and direct all the other cells to do what they need to for the body to work. The idea is absurd. No cell could possibly understand, let alone keep track of all the required activities that need to go on for life to continue, let alone manage them centrally.

Past a certain size, either the body manages itself, or it dies. It cannot be "run" from some command post. It's not a question of raw power of the bullying type -- if the King cell had a super-death-ray that could kill any cell that disobeyed, it wouldn't help. It simply can't be run from the top.

That's not how very large aggregates of living things work. There are no successful examples based on the Rambo model. Those simply violate the underlying physics and math of Life. All attempts at centrally planned economies have failed, for the same underlying reason -- it can't be done.

There's just too much to plan, and the best a central authority can do is "prioritize" and work on a few "top things", and that requires building a mental context to get mental arms around a problem, and you can only do a few of those context shifts a day, if that. But reality has thousands of new "top things" that have to be dealt with each day, every day, or they will crash and burn and damage the overall system. Just picture trying to centrally manage how to feed 8 million New Yorkers every day, and what would happen if the Government, any government, tried to "manage" that process and "plan" it. Let alone a government that specialized in paralysis and stopping all planning operations dead in their tracks. So in a month or two we'll restart the food? That's not a plan. Now multiply that by a billion.

For that matter, imagine how much you'd get done if you had to spend your day regulating your own digestion and metabolism on a second by second basis.

That's the task. No one can "manage" that centrally. The more it's managed the worse it gets.

Oh, it does need management and structure, but the control system required is distributed and emergent, a system thing, not central and designed by mere humans.

And that requires all the parts to work together, above their diverse functions, in an overarching unity that recognizes a common bond and a common support system.

That's the model Life uses. It's the only model we know that works. I think we should pay more attention to understanding it and aligning our selves with it, or at least with the principles involved in developing healthy strength and a prospering, functioning body.

So, who's right? Well, everyone's partly right, as usual. A monolithic central planning government, trying to run everything will not work. An absence of any control structure will not work. We need to evolve the same kind of emergent yet distributed control that our bodies have, simultaneously globally aware, operating as with a single spirit, and still locally active, specializing in a billion local issues. We need both "freedom" and "law and order".

That is not, however, the end point of unfettered competition and "freedom" of every part to do its own thing on its own schedule. The parts still have to submit to the whole -- but the whole is not run by any single part. I think they had that idea 200 years ago when the US was formed.

And, curiously, if the shouting and screaming and pushing and name-calling would take a break, I think everyone actually agrees with the goal, just not how to get there.

Maybe it needs a better and more vivid simulation and animation to get more widely understood. There is no solution where one person, or one small group, or one religion, or culture, or political part, or corporation, or one nation-state "runs" everything and everyone.

This jockeying to be "in charge" and to be that "one" is based on a total misunderstanding of what is possible anymore in a small but fractally-complex world.

A different kind of overarching common spirit and unity is where we need to go. We are so close,with instant world-wide communication, and it is the best of times. But we are so much in apoplectic panic about loss of control and the risks of not being "number one" that it is the worst of times.

I agree that humans, or cells, or corporations, or nations left to their own devices and free-will will behave badly. I also believe that, as our human bodies discovered, it is still possible to constrain that free-will without killing it, if some level of submission to the whole is accepted.

It's not a loss - it's a gain. It's giving up a false hope of something we could never have for a real plan for getting something we could all use, and a world economy and political and military system that isn't as unstable and prone to collapse or self-destruction as this one.

I should state that my thinking here is guided by my own limited understanding of the teachings of the Baha'i Faith, and I recommend reading up on it directly for any readers who are not familiar with it. But, I am not the spokesman for the Baha'is, so I'll simply close with their own statement on the subject:
If the Baha'i experience can contribute in whatever measure to reinforcing hope in the unity of the human race, we are happy to offer it as a model for study.
From: The Promise of World Peace, a statement of the Baha'i Universal House of Justice, October, 1985.
Wade


Here's the Dicken's quote in context:
It was the best of times, it was the worst of times, it was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of Light, it was the season of Darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair, we had everything before us, we had nothing before us, we were all going direct to heaven, we were all going direct the other way - in short, the period was so far like the present period, that some of its noisiest authorities insisted on its being received, for good or for evil, in the superlative degree of comparison only.
Charles Dickens, A Tale of Two Cities
English novelist (1812 - 1870)
Photo credit: "fighting fan" by K0P (on flickr)

Monday, November 12, 2007

Communication and control - the LAPD and Moslems



A hornet's nest was stirred up by a recent announcement by the Los Angeles Police Department that it was collecting data on Muslim communities.

"LAPD to build data on Muslim areas; Anti-terrorism unit wants to identify sites 'at risk' for extremism.", Los Angeles Times, Nov 9, 2007, also titled "LAPD defends Muslim mapping effort". Those aren't available for free, but a brief restatement is on the LAPD weblog at http://www.lapdblog.org/

What went wrong, and how could this work better next time? One hint is that the LA Times story had over 250 comments posted, and the LAPD weblog story had two.

The core problem, as I see it:
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I think it is almost impossible to communicate to someone, you can only communicate with them. Otherwise, you are really only talking at them -- most of it is bouncing off unheard.

This is like the teacher who said "I taught that material - the students just didn't learn it." That's not teaching, it's spouting. A DVD can spout. It takes a human being to teach.

When the FAA wants to read a flight clearance to a pilot, where it matters if the message is received, it waits until the pilot says "ready to copy." There's no point in running the faucet if the glass isn't under it.

What our K-12 or college systems seldom teach, however, is a fact that's obvious when you think about it, but overlooked all the time in planning:
People are not machines.
I've gone on at length in prior posts about what this means, but the most important take home message here today is this:
Human communication paths are not copper wires
that are either "attached" or "not" -- they are dynamic paths that you have to grow from both sides and continually nurture and weed. The are, in most senses of the word, living things.


And, like the way you talk with your wife, one harsh word or insult, even if unintended, can shut the whole thing down in an instant. To do this right requires heavy lifting over a long period of time. It doesn't just "happen." It's worth it, but it doesn't come easily.

It's as if you each have very low power walkie-talkies with invisible antennas, but your antenna is at right angles to hers, and essentially no signal gets through. You have to jockey around for a while on each end to get them more closely aligned before you can carry on a conversation.

You can't make up for this with volume. If the person is misunderstanding what you mean by a word, shouting doesn't improve the communication. What helps is noticing that their face registered a blank, or anger, when you used the word, which you didn't intend as your message, and stopping right there to ask what they just heard instead of what you meant.

Except that, you have to do that several hundred times, and they have to do it several hundred times, with both sides making a good faith effort to avoid jumping to conclusions, for it to work. There is no way to avoid this step. People are not machines. There is no magic wire, no Mr. Spock kind of Vulcan Mind-Meld that will let you communicate directly.

And, as my other posts go into at length, we live in silos in very different worlds, where words are attached to very different meanings, and it is misleading that we might all speak English, say. Then we think what I mean by a word is what you mean by it, and that's not true at all. Actually, it's amazing we manage to ever communicate at all with other people.
"What you heard is not what I meant" is the norm.
Anyway, at the end of this give and take dance of adjusting our internal antennas to get more aligned, there is, in fact a sweet spot at which a new thing takes over. In signal theory this is called "phase lock". Suddenly, briefly, you are 100% aligned. For a moment, the air is crystal clear, not filled with smoke and debris. But, people are not machines and this doesn't last very long, per event. But it can happen. Then you have to repair the channel again.

Sometimes you see this in sports teams that "get their act together", for a few seconds they play as if mind-reading, like a single person, totally synchronized and coordinated. There's a joy in watching this few seconds that makes the rest of the miserable weather worth while.

LAPD and Muslims
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Anyway, what triggered this post was the announcement (above) this week by the Los Angeles Police Department that they were going to start ... and I should stop there, because at the next word, communication already broke down.

The LAPD, after some false starts and use of the term "mapping Muslim communities" changed to the phrase "engaging". Too late! The community heard "mapping, followed implicitly by forcing to wear stars, surrounding with barbed wire, and shipping off to concentration camps, or worse. "

Again the basic rule of communication had shown its face:
What you say is not what they'll hear.
So, which side is "right"? I have no idea what is "really" going on, in terms of engagement between the LAPD and Muslim communities, aside from noting the obvious dysfunctional communication that set things back quite a bit.

Is the conclusion "Oh, I give up. There's no way to talk to her?" No. But there's no way to talk "TO" anyone, as I described above, unless you actually plan to take a lot of time listening as well, hearing surprising things that you weren't originally aware were issues.

In other terms, your antennas or mental models of each other have to both shift around somewhat and play this dance that we used to hear computer modems playing, alternating various beeps and squawks at each other, searching for a communication protocol that both sides understood before trying to start the actual conversation.

That step cannot be skipped, or your faucet is over here and their glass is over there, and there ain't any water making it across the gap.


The LA Fire Department
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By a remarkable coincidence, this month's issue of the magazine "Government Health IT" had a story about the LA Fire Department's use of Web 2.0 technology, including Flickr, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, to build communication paths with the public.

The LA Fire Department weblog is here.

The whole point of "Web 2" or "Web 2.0" is that the communication goes both ways. In "Web 1" systems, the company posts a "website" and the viewers, as on TV, well, "view it". It goes one way, period. Sometimes a letter to the editor might get a tiny bit of feedback loop going, but not really -- it's to little, and too late. Delay time matters, to humans. Remembering your wife's birthday ON her birthday is way better than remembering it the next day.

All of the "Web 2" tools are different, and not different inside the box -- they are different outside the box. They are used differently. They are social-networking tools that allow communications to go BOTH directions.

So, like a weblog, not only does the blog owner get to post an item, but everyone and his brother gets to post a response. That's one cycle. Then, people start posting responses to other people's comments, and it takes off. It is, in some sense, much less controllable.

The trade off that makes it valuable, despite this lessened sense of control, is that it lets the customers stop being "viewers" and start being "participants." It goes from the world of "selling" to resistant "customers" to actually hearing what people are saying and asking for and changing the product line to fit those actual needs. This is the key of the whole Toyota Way, known to Toyota as "customer pull", and Toyota could not operate without it.
Toyota knows how to LISTEN.
It turns out, it is not trivial to listen. It is not even easy to listen. Being in the room with the TV on is not listening, it's being near something spouting. TV trains us to be "subjected to" messages, which is like standing under a cold shower. People "tune out."

You want people to "tune in", you need to go interactive, where both sides talk, AND, both sides listen. AND, both sides adjust their frequency and antenna position slightly to improve the channel bandwidth, and go through that mutual learning cycle over and over again, each time getting a little better at hearing.
It's a loop, like the clothes line pictured above. It either goes both ways, or it doesn't go at all. If there's no loop, you're simply trying to "push with a rope."
If you want them to hear you, you have to spend a lot of energy listening to and hearing what they are really trying to tell you. The "density" is a property of the CHANNEL, not either side. If your listener seems "dense", it's because the whole communication LOOP isn't flowing adequately, full cycle.

Anyway, what's the LAFD doing?

Brian Humphrey and Ron Myers are described as having 80 different Web 2.0 efforts in the works, at the LA Fire Department's public information office.

I quote the Government Health IT article (Nov 2007, pages 42-43, Crisis Communications 2.0")
Humphrey and Myers see the new tools as opening more channels of communication between the department and the public. "Some might make the mistake of thinking these web 2.0 tools will allow us to get our message out louder and to more people," Humphrey said. "I think that is is wrong. What they enhance is the ability to listen."

He said some emergency agencies seek to control the public. "Instead, we want to empower them," he added. "And that lends itself to Web 2.0"
Well, I mostly agree. I am afraid that their phrasing could be heard as saying that it is not important to get OUT the message, and that it is not important to have public control and order."

In point of fact, as a friendly amendment, the reason for listening better is that you have to listen better IN ORDER TO get your communication channel built, IN ORDER TO be able to get your message not only broadcast and spouted, but actually heard and understood correctly.

The listening part is not just "for nice". The honest listening part is part of the requirement humans have to build a channel.

And, providing a spot for comments that are ignored is not "listening".

True story - once at Cornell the Building and Grounds department decided they were going to undertake some ill-advised project, which I think involved demolishing part of the beloved "Arts Quad" to put in something ugly. There was a huge outcry over the fact that this had not been discussed in public and there had been no chance for public input. As a result, the B&G department scheduled a huge public hearing. I went. They started off the meeting with, as near as I can recall, these words. "Thank you for coming tonight. We welcome your input. After the discussion, on your way out, please pick up your copy, from the boxes in the back,
of the booklets that describe the construction we will be doing next week. "

Communication only has value if it contains surprises. This is a basic law of signal theory. If the communication has no news in it, it's pretty useless. We already know that.

Which means, if you want to communicate, and build this loop, you need to accept the astounding fact that the party you're talking with knows something that you don't.

And the point of the conversation is to mutually surprise each other with facts that the other side didn't realize. This only works if both sides are willing to be surprised with information as good as, or better than, the information they had been working with and assumed was true.

The notion of "fairness" is very strong in human communication, unlike computers. People really resent being talked down to, and shut down the link. On the other hand, people sit up and take notice when their comments are heard and responded to, and come sit closer and start listening themselves. But it takes time. And humility. And listening. And hearing. And responding to what is heard by updating your mental model of what is going on.

The other point I have to disagree with, or tweak, in the statement above by the LAFD, is the implication that this communication process could lose "control".

As I've discussed before, no company or hospital or armed force is going to abandon the level of control they worked so hard to get, to be able to deliver their mission. BUT, they can, and must, adjust their internal mental model of what they thin they're doing, based on real information from the real world, not on some old, outdated concept of reality. Or, there's no point in "control" - you get that level of "control" by welding the steering wheel in place as the car drives off a cliff. You see that level of control in GM as they refuse to hear the message that people want cars with better mileage.

So, even the US Army, with a very strong hierarchy and a very strong need for control, has embraced the idea that they also need how to listen. (See the US Army Leadership Field Manual, FM22-100.)

The core "cybernetic" loop requires two things -- that the body respond to the brain's control commands, and that the brain stay current on what's going on in the body. Then it's a win-win.

Brains issuing controls based on how the world was last week or last year or "when I was in school" are like driving a car with the windshield blocked with a full-size photograph of the road taken last month.

Two kinds of authority
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As I've discussed elsewhere, the two meanings of "authority" have to be disentangled. Authority, in the sense of being able to issue lawful orders has to be retained, and enhanced.

Authority, in the sense of being right and being up to date an an authority on a subject, has to be obtained, and can only be obtained, by listening to real-time updates from the field, and being prepared to be surprised with what you hear.

The two together is a terrific combo. Control without actual paying attention is very short-lived, and expires at the next bend in the road one wasn't expecting or that wasn't on the Mapquest or Google Map of our planned route -- it is pointless.

The communication and response loops are key. One, vertically, has to let the guys at the top listen to, and actually hear, what they guys at the bottom are saying. One, horizontally, has to let everyone hear what the customers are actually saying. Then, you have a recipe for a very agile and adaptive powerhouse. Otherwise, you have a blind monster at large.

Wade

Related posts:

Unity in diversity and the two feedback loops (horizontal and vertical):

Nature of Feedback

(photo of man and woman , "Worn out" by by Avid Maxfan)

Sunday, October 21, 2007

Christians, Jews, and Moslems kiss and make up


Two news items this week show that the time is right for figuring out why three branches of the same Abrahamic tree of faith are at each other's throats so much, and fixing that.

Scholars from Judaism, Christianity, and Islam got together and realized there was way more in common than in dispute between these faiths. They moved on to looking again at exactly why each one feels it has to be the "only" faith.

Here's the first item:

Call for Muslim-Christian Unity 'Very Encouraging', Says Vatican Interfaith Head

A top Vatican official in charge of relations with Islam said a recent letter from Muslim scholars to Pope Benedict XVI and other global Christian leaders is “very interesting” and “very encouraging.”

Sun, Oct. 14, 2007 Posted: 10:40:43 AM EST


A top Vatican official in charge of relations with Islam said a recent letter from Muslim scholars to Pope Benedict XVI and other global Christian leaders is “very interesting” and “very encouraging.”

"I would say that this represents a very encouraging sign because it shows that good will and dialogue are capable of overcoming prejudices," Cardinal Jean-Louis Tauran said Friday, according to The Associated Press.

The letter, entitled “A Common Word Between Us and You,” calls for peace and understanding between Islam and Christianity, claiming that if the two communities are not at peace “the world cannot be at peace.”

“Our common future is at stake,” it added. “The very survival of the world itself is perhaps at stake.”

The document has been hailed by many as unprecedented and historic as it includes the signatures of 138 Muslim clerics, scholars and intellectuals from all branches of Islam – Sunni and Shia, Salafi and Sufi, liberal and conservative. Among the signatories were no fewer than 19 current and former grand ayatollahs and grand muftis, noted Newsweek magazine.


Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, here's the second item"


From the Los Angeles Times

Scholars try to reconcile 'problematic' religious texts

Christian, Jewish and Muslim experts met this week to add context to passages that have been perceived as hostile toward other faiths.
By K. Connie Kang
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

October 20, 2007 (excerpts):

Speaking with mutual respect and sensitivity, prominent Christian, Jewish and Muslim scholars and clergy from around the country met in Los Angeles this week to "wrestle" with what one rabbi described as the "dark side" of the three faith traditions.

Experts cited "problematic" passages from the Hebrew Scripture, the New Testament and the Koran that assert the superiority of one belief system over others.

Firestone said that all monotheistic traditions are confronted with the problem of chosen-ness and that "we all need to work through this absolutely basic notion in each of our religious systems."

Rabbi Mark S. Diamond, executive vice president of the Board of Rabbis of Southern California, which co-sponsored the event with Sacred Heart University in Fairfield, Conn., said all people of faith need to "take ownership of their most difficult texts, wrestle with them -- not run away from them -- but confront them, where appropriate, set them in their proper historical context.

"After wrestling, I hope people can understand these texts in the appropriate contexts and realize that not all of them, but many of them, are bound by conditions of social milieu, of culture, of historical context."

In some instances, he continued, people of faith need to say to themselves, "This is part of my sacred tradition, but I reject it. I find this text offensive. It goes against my own morality, and it goes against what I believe God expects of me in the world today."

That calls for a great deal of theological introspection, education and courage, he said.

Called "Troubling Tradition: Wrestling With Problem Passages," the program at the Luxe Hotel in Bel-Air on Monday and Tuesday was the second in a series of four international conferences initiated by the Center for Christian-Jewish Understanding of Sacred Heart University.

"We want to foster serious theological and moral thinking about those aspects of our traditions . . . that are intolerant and delegitimizes the other and have been used by extremists to foster violence and hatred," said Rabbi Eugene Korn, executive director of the Center for Christian-Jewish Understanding. "It's absolutely critical now because of the increase in religious violence and extreme hostility."

The first conference was held last year in Connecticut. There will be conferences in Germany in 2008 and Jerusalem in 2009. The papers presented at the conferences will be published as a book and posted on the Internet.

Speakers at the Los Angeles conference also included Rabbi Elliott Dorff, rector and professor of philosophy at American Jewish University, and Richard J. Mouw, president of Fuller Theological Seminary.

Conservative Christian Ann Coulter's recent comment about Jews needing to be "perfected" by converting to Christianity was mentioned only in passing.

"Panelists and presenters chose not to dignify her remarks with a response," Diamond said.

Jerry D. Campbell, president of the Claremont School of Theology, summed up the event:

"God is challenging us to take the idea of troubling texts to the next level, to begin a new conversation across faiths and throughout the world, with the goal of realizing God's own hope that all God's creation may learn to live harmoniously together."